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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.07 12:16:48 -
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Under pressure people revert to type. Even so, being sanctimonious only says that about you. A person who can't lie cheat or steal doesn't get any medals for not doing so. Pacifists who are wimps or cowards can't flop out the ethics card under fire. Most of us can lie, but only some are liars. Know the difference, relax.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.07 14:51:26 -
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Elenahina wrote:Just like I have a code of ethics that guides my real life, I would create a code of behavior and guidelines for my characters. Motivations, goals, things of that sort.?
The invented character turns to powder under pressure. An easy test for people is to ask them questions you know the answer to. A hard test is to stress them with responsibility, ridicule or limit their time or ability to do something. Roleplaying is a posture people adopt, the core doesn't change.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.07 15:37:18 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:How you behave in a game is a reflection of how you would behave in RL if there were no laws to punish or stop you behaving that way. Absolutely, I would totally dunk miners in RL but the law prevents me from behaving that way.
Some of us think of ethics as a complex thing for the greatest of minds and that people are evil unless violent overseers are constantly watching. Others, about 98% of the population, know that ethics are expected of everyone over about 5 years of age and are used by everyone all the time. Within the 'magic circle' of a game's rules though, all bets are off. It's only when the rules are evaded or broken that you can question another player's ethics. "Is only gaem, y u hef to be med?"
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.07 15:41:17 -
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Dracvlad wrote:then I will just smile knowingly in your direction]
This features in many of your posts, it doesn't add anything to them and comes across as conceited and soft. Unless that's what you're roleplaying, in which case, well done.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.07 16:25:36 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:1) People like Baltec1 and goons are the same sort of people, they're happy to sit at a highsec choke and kill empty ships worth 200 to 600 times more than their own ship purely for the pleasure that loss causes to the player they're ganking.
2) While I wouldn't class them in the same category as Erotica they are people I would consider lowbrow and not associate with IRL.
1) Sometimes after waiting for a target, out of boredom people kill or hotdrop the next thing that comes along, which explains empty ship kills and carriers landing on a lowsec thrasher. To go from there to character flaws is a long bow to draw.
2) Who cares? What you think of them isn't relevant.
I have met a guy who lures new players into his corp, kills them, destroys their assets and kicks them. Once he led 15 miners into nullsec and after he'd loaded up all their assets into a freighter he kicked them all. He actually is a sadist who divides all people into two groups: Losers (people who trust him in any way) and bastards (people who see through him or take advantage of him). I've spoken with him on comms, i've flown with him. It's his pleasure to try to hurt people and get them to leave the game in despair. It's a fact that some people are like him. Lying and manipulating since birth and very good at it, better, in fact, than normal people. You can't roleplay that on his level. Adopting a disgusted, amused or dismissive stance is nothing to the case.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.09 12:12:06 -
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ITT: people who can't fight claim a moral victory.
...and all under the guise of a thread about roleplaying.
Makes me want to go shoot a spaceship, hard.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.09 23:05:45 -
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I destroyed an Endurance in lowsec a few weeks ago. Saw him in local, undocked my Naughty SpaecshipGäó and by deft use of tracking camera and d-scan was upon him before he had one cycle completed. He remarked in local that this game is brutal, with an exclamation mark, further describing his efforts to raise the 20 odd million to set up his ice miner. I offered to help him in a financial way, asking if he was ruined or broken-hearted but he cheerily informed me that he was off to get stuff and mine elsewhere. He sounded either British or Indian, which means buoyant and pragmatic to the point of SpongeBob. He is the type of spaecman i admire and i shed a manly tear as he left local. I take my hat and my pants off to these immortal space gods. The poor schmuck who lost a Tristan, smacking loudly in local for 30 minutes, mentioning Jesus and admonishing me on my choices, my ancestry and my sexuality? Best not to mention him. Let's just say that his corp lost quarter of a billion before learning to avoid certain areas and leave it at that.
Now try to convince me that it's my actions that are hurting the game, that the latter kind of player is who is needed in greater numbers. Ignore all the stats and numbers and facts, really go for it. Remember to delineate my moral guidance system with no other information than ingame activity.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.10 02:53:51 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote: He sounded either British or Indian, which means buoyant and pragmatic to the point of SpongeBob. Indian, yes perhaps...but British? Buoyant? 
When they opened that Millenium Bridge in London it had some wobble to it, unexpectedly, the crowds began to walk in time with the wobble and magnify it until it really looked like the thing might bust. British people's temperament is actually crazy and humorous, there was no panic or sensible moving away as you would expect from more tropical or alpine environments. Harder to generalize about Indians, being over a billion people, but there is a cultural pressure to be happy that renders them useless in some settings, awesome in others. A hole dug in a road in India will have one guy digging, a supervisor, two guys talking about how to better dig the hole and a passer-by offering comments to those two. Temperament controls how you act under pressure more than anything, training can affect it superficially, but the core is hard to change after adolescence.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1553
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Posted - 2016.09.10 08:44:35 -
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F A T A L I T Y .
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.10 11:53:49 -
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Giaus Felix wrote:The actions you suggest aren't within the rules of either football or pool.
This, exactly this. If i sink everything and you contend that the game should change to allow you at least one shot before i drop the black, you're wrong and a sore loser. If my team stymies your team's every attempt at scoring in football there's really no point announcing that you're not playing unless you get an even amount of time with the ball. It looks pathetic and not in a sporting or even competitive spirit. If my corp squashes all your moon goo towers and three market pvp guys bankrupt your traders, well, get rekt. The horrifying and ridiculous losses sustained are what make any victories sweet. My breathless laughter at your downfall doesn't make me a bad person, but tell yourself that if lying on the forums or threatening to unsub doesn't do a damn thing.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.11 08:11:12 -
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sero Hita wrote:If there were no rules in society would I behave worse than you?
If there were no rules in society, there would be no society and the quality of your conduct would be moot, since worse or better are relative to standards. Calling you a bad person IRL because of ingame conduct is usually an impotent venting whine, as i've mentioned previously in this thread, i have to know someone before i can call them a bad person or not. Some of us lie, cheat and steal ingame because it's part of the game. Well played and gf. Some of us are liars, cheats and thieves. It's knowing the difference that allows a more relaxed and light hearted approach to it all.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1558
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Posted - 2016.09.11 11:08:10 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote: The pirates/griefers playing style make assholes feel good, so what more can i say: Not everyone, but most people are more likely to be assholes in that playingstyle?
That does not make sense. Assertion, assumption--------->conclusion with a question mark.
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote: Etherway: self reflection is the way to enlighment
Westerners have loaded the word enlightenment with positive baggage, conflating it with other strangely positive words like 'more' and 'new' when in fact Illumination is to be avoided as it forces people to change their lives forever and replaces all faith with knowledge.
Infinity Ziona wrote: If you attack people personally in a computer game,
Ah come on, you've called people plebs and worse in this thread for post after post, it says something about you doesn't it?
This thread is making terrible sounds as it scrapes across the shallows, i'll leave it now, it's been a hoot, no troll.
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